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jeff

jeff

Carnivorous Plant Addict
Vous l'avez peut-être récemment vu passer chez nos amis anglophones, un nouvel exemple de braconnage de plantes carnivores, cette fois-ci aux Etats-Unis !
ㅤ Deux suspects ont éㅤté arrêtés avec environ 600 individus de dionées qu'ils venaient de piller.
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jeff said:
Vous l'avez peut-être récemment vu passer chez nos amis anglophones, un nouvel exemple de braconnage de plantes carnivores, cette fois-ci aux Etats-Unis !
ㅤ Deux suspects ont éㅤté arrêtés avec environ 600 individus de dionées qu'ils venaient de piller.
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Apparemment, ces plantes ont été récoltées pour leurs vertus médicinaux quelconques et non pour revendre aux pépinières...
 
I'm going to just leave this here:

Venus Flytrap (Dionaea muscipula Solander ex Ellis) Contains Powerful Compounds that Prevent and Cure Cancer - PMC

Chemoprevention uses natural or synthetic molecules without toxic effects to prevent and/or block emergence and development of diseases including cancer. Many of these natural molecules modulate mitogenic signals involved in cell survival, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In any case, if we really needed the plant chemicals to come direct from the plants, there's no reason they couldn't use cultivated plants.
 
Lloyd Gordon said:
VFT's have no medicinal value in any case. Not that it makes a difference. Poaching is poaching. If a plant had medicinal value, the active principal could be synthesized and the plant itself wouldn't have to be wild collected.
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It would almost certainly be safer to use too. It's crazy to me how people think that because something is from a plant and therefore "natural" that it must be safe to use.

It's terrible that this poaching is still happening. I bet they were taking every plant they could find too. Even taking just one is awful, never mind likely denuding an entire area. Between poaching, climate change and habitat destruction I'm really worried for these plants.
 
When you read about possible medicinal molecules in a certain plant, remember that you also find such chemicals everywhere: in dandelions, purple loosestrife, elephant toenails, sewage and our greenbin. That's a long way from a commercial product. Although I have high hopes for our greenbin.
 
Lloyd Gordon said:
When you read about possible medicinal molecules in a certain plant, remember that you also find such chemicals everywhere: in dandelions, purple loosestrife, elephant toenails, sewage and our greenbin. That's a long way from a commercial product. Although I have high hopes for our greenbin.
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Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to imply <viewpoint that you're arguing against>, but I see now that that's a pretty natural way to interpret what I wrote.

In the same way that it's a fallacy to assert that because something is "natural" it must also be safe, it's also a fallacy to assert that because something is "just a plant" then it must not be effective.

Unrelatedly, I'm sorry for not discussing this in French. The miscommunication would definitely be much worse though. :\
 
I do not believe venus flytrap has some medicine quality whatsoever... Poachers of animals/plants always justified/mystified theirs acts !
 
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