I've been thinking about a couple of things ...

Fred Kratky

Seedling
Which is always a dangerous thing because I never think small.

Thing one:
Sarracenia on a balcony. I absolutely love the North American Sarracenias with the tall tubular pitchers. I have this balcony I grow things on including some veggies like tomatos, eggplant peppers... and a mediums sized, ok large, pot of native plants including Cypripedium parviflorum. A pot of C. leukophyla would fit right in.

Can these things be overwintered in the fridge bare root? Right now I have ideas spinning around in my head about using a heater hooked up to a controller to maintain the soil temperature over the winter just over freezing.

Thing two:
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o_O Some days I think I should stay off the internets.

Thing is, I have this aquarium. Kinda big aquarium. 48 x 30 x 20 big aquarium. Its sitting there doing nothing at the moment for a few reasons. You know, I could do that paludarium thing quite nicely and, if I extent the aquarium up like this guy I could keep a few kinda bigger Nepenthes ... or I could just try to stay off the internets.

I'm going to mull over thing two for a while while I try growing the Nepenthes I just ordered.
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
Nice terrarium Joseph.

Bringing the pots inside does not work very well in an apartment.

Well, would you look at that. Seems very straight forward and easily doable:
 

Lloyd Gordon

Parasitic Plant Aficionado
Staff member
I know there was one person who overwintered a lot of Sarr's, bare-root in the fridge with great success.
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
Thanks Lloyd. From the video it looks simple. Don't even have to wrap the roots in anything. This would be a fun addition to my balcony and there appear to be some inexpensive crosses that I can try this on.

I can move this one from the hair brained to good idea column. :)
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
... Stock tank de-icer Its a thing. :)

... or styro box against the balcony window

... or balcony lean to greenhouse. Why be practical. :p

So many options.
 

JosephElliott

Carnivore
I’m not sure where in Ontario you are but if you have the climate for it you could also try building an insulated box around the plants and place a light bulb or ceramic heat emiter on a thermostat inside the box. A few people have done this with success.
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
Those ceramic heaters look like they get very hot. The nice thing about the stock tank de-icer is that they only run at just over freezing. I have a 35 gallon barrel that I could build a platform for so that the pot sits inside and I can just cover it with a piece of plywood. That should keep the air in the barrel right around freezing. Should also help keep the potting mix from drying.
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
Safety first, care with wires and heat sources. A cheap little beer fridge would be ideal.
Not gonna post pics of my apartment, but trust me, I have no room for a beer fridge and my wine cooler is full. :)

The stock tank heater should work well and, being on the balcony, is not likely to burn the place down if it fails.
 

JosephElliott

Carnivore
There are risks with stock tank heaters as well. A stock tank heater will keep things from freezing but when combined with a water pump can result in below freezing liquid water. This phenomenon is mostly observed by koi keepers where the danger is the sub freezing water creates ice crystals in the gills of fish.

Will this effect carnivorous plants significantly? No idea. But it’s worth noting. Also, speaking from experience when it hits -40 stock tank heaters consume a lot of electricity.
 

Fred Kratky

Seedling
There are risks with stock tank heaters as well. A stock tank heater will keep things from freezing but when combined with a water pump can result in below freezing liquid water. This phenomenon is mostly observed by koi keepers where the danger is the sub freezing water creates ice crystals in the gills of fish.

Will this effect carnivorous plants significantly? No idea. But it’s worth noting. Also, speaking from experience when it hits -40 stock tank heaters consume a lot of electricity.
I would not be using a pump and no koi will be harmed by my experiments. :)

There are downsides to everything. Electrically, since the heater would be used in the manner intended for it it should not present an electrical hazard.

Thankfully it does not get down to -40 here in south central Ontario and -30 does not happen often. I would also surround the area I intend to keep around freezing with foam insulation and some sort of cover to create a 'mini environment, so, unless we see weeks of -30, a stock tank heater should not see that much use.

I could still go with the baggy in the back of the fridge method. It seems the simplest if I'm just keeping one Sarracenia. It would set the plant back a bit each year, but then I'm not trying to grow a field of these things. Really I'm just looking at all the alternatives.

IF, however, this turns into a mini bog in a pot, I would need some alternative to the fridge. I definitely need to go back to work and stay away from the internets for a while. :rolleyes:
 
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