Thought my outdoor sarrs had thrips - ended up burning all of them.

Stanley

Carnivorous Plant Addict
My outdoor sarrs have always grown very strange for me. Many of them are twisted or don't stand up right so I investigated further. I saw black droppings on many of the pitchers and figured there were thrips - not enough to see but enough to cause some sort of damage and to leave droppings behind.

Anyways, I decided to hit them with some Safer's Insecticide on Saturday. Checked on them this morning and they all have superficial burns all over them. Safer's recommends shielding treated plants from bright light for a few days after application but none of my other plants have ever gotten burned so I was complacent and left the sarrs out in full sun.

Sigh. Hope they recover.
 

stevebradford

Carnivorous Plant Addict
Sorry to hear!

My Sarracenia always have black spots especially on the hood and higher up the pitchers. In our case those spots in the picture are unsightly fly droppings.
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My early season first pitchers come out curly sometimes. In my case I think the reason is environmental. Possibly too wet? Not sure.

The disappointment you feel when it comes out curly!
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Stanley

Carnivorous Plant Addict
.............I definitely have fly droppings then. I've actually never seen thrip droppings but heard they appear as black dots so when I saw them, I overreacted. I'm sure my plants will survive but might be ugly for the rest of the year.

I still can't figure out the curliness. Some of the pitchers grew upright but are fully corkscrewed. Otheres curled on themselves back towards the soil.

I keep the water level in my tub around 1" below soil level. Is that too high?
 

stevebradford

Carnivorous Plant Addict
I keep the water level in my tub around 1" below soil level. Is that too high?
I believe so. I keep mine in 10inch tall pot in about 1inch of water. Early season when mine come out curly is when we get a lot of rain here and the soil gets really wet.

I’m sure different sarr like different conditions. all mine get the same conditions though. I have heard of others keeping the water level to halfway of the soil level in the pot.

“no more than halfway up the pot.” https://www.growcarnivorousplants.com/Articles.asp?ID=258

I’m sure yours will come back next year. If your lucky you might get a nice fall pitcher set this year! Keep us updated.
 
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steve booth

Seedling
.............I definitely have fly droppings then. I've actually never seen thrip droppings but heard they appear as black dots so when I saw them, I overreacted. I'm sure my plants will survive but might be ugly for the rest of the year.

I still can't figure out the curliness. Some of the pitchers grew upright but are fully corkscrewed. Otheres curled on themselves back towards the soil.

I keep the water level in my tub around 1" below soil level. Is that too high?
As a general rule the water height should be a maximum of about a third of the pot height. Occasional innundations do no harm but constant high water levels can deprive roots of oxygen and lead to anaerobic conditions in the pot/bog.

Cheers
Steve
 

Lloyd Gordon

Parasitic Plant Aficionado
Staff member
I find mine are ok as long as the soil is damp all the way to the top. Mine rarely are full, at most once per year.
 

Stanley

Carnivorous Plant Addict
I dumped out all the old water and only refilled it to 1/3 up the pots. Definitely a sulfur or methane smell when I dumped the water - most likely due to anaerobic conditions in the soil.

All my outdoor CP's look like absolute crap now :( What's especially upsetting is all the flower stalks are dying and I probably won't get seeds due to the damage. I'm just crossing my fingers now that they bounce back next year.
 
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